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Arsenal in Europe
2002-2003 
Second group stage
Final positions
Pld W D L F A Pts
[an error occurred while processing this directive] 6 2 3 1 5 6 9
[an error occurred while processing this directive] 6 1 5 0 6 5 8
[an error occurred while processing this directive] 6 1 4 1 6 5 7
[an error occurred while processing this directive] 6 1 2 3 7 8 5
schedule of matches
| Date |
Arsenal's match |
Other match |
| Weds 27th Nov |
Roma 1 - 3 Arsenal |
Valencia 1 - 1 Ajax |
| Tues 10th Dec |
Arsenal 0 - 0 Valencia |
Ajax 2 - 1 Roma |
| Tues 18th Feb |
Arsenal 1 - 1 Ajax |
Roma 0 - 1 Valencia |
| Weds 26th Feb |
Ajax 0 - 0 Arsenal |
Valencia 0 - 3 Roma |
| Tues 11th Mar |
Arsenal 1 - 1 Roma |
Ajax 1 - 1 Valencia |
| Weds 19th Mar |
Valencia 2 - 1 Arsenal |
Roma 1 - 1 Ajax |
First group stage
final standings
Pld W D L F A Pts
[an error occurred while processing this directive] 6 3 1 2 9 4 10
[an error occurred while processing this directive] 6 3 1 2 8 7 10
[an error occurred while processing this directive] 6 2 1 3 4 7 7
[an error occurred while processing this directive] 6 1 3 2 5 8 6
(Arsenal finish top by beating Dortmund on head-to-head results)
schedule of matches
UK Television coverage
Please see also this newsreel article and this one too. And more recent entries in the
UK TV topic.
Many thanks to everyone who has sent information for the benefit of
their fellow Gooners. I am sorry but the response has (already) been so overwhelming
that it is impossible to thanks everybody by name.
- Sky Digital
- The matches on the ITN news channel are not available
on Sky Digital. Sky Digital does carry a channel of that name,
but for some reason they are not showing the champs league games on that
version of the channel.
The matches which are on ITV2 however, are accessible using
Sky Digital.
We have now heard a likely-sounding reason for all this. Sky Digital
is available outside the UK. Showing the Champs League games
outside the UK would be a breach of ITV's contract with UEFA.
UEFA put these kind of restrictions into the contracts in order
to enable them to make separate deals with broadcasters in
different countries. So it's UEFA's fault.
- Terrestrial Digital
- Exactly the same is true of terrestrial digital boxes
as of SkyDigital. You can get ITV2 and the matches shown
on that channel. You can get ITN News but the version of the channel
which you receive will not be showing the champs league games.
- ITV misinformation
- You may have seen this press release from ITV (Word document!), which stated that
"ITV2 and the ITN News Channel are free-to-air digital channels available on digital terrestrial, digital satellite and cable services".
Our understanding is that this press release, released on 4th September,
pre-dated the decision not to show the games on the non-cable versions of the
ITN News channel.
- Cable complications
- If you have cable and aren't sure if you'll get the games, we recommend
that you ring your supplier and hope they've got up-to-date information!
Apparently some suppliers only send you ITN News during the day. It seems
bizarre at first but when you think about it, what kind of important world events
ever happen when the sun's gone down on England?
- How to Complain
- It's understandable and expected that not all of Arsenal's
games will be shown on the telly. But the fact that the Champions
(and the team which by all neutral accounts is the most entertaining
English team to watch these days) are being passed over for the
more accessible channels in favour of Liverpool, is simply absurd.
The ITV Network Centre can be contacted on 0207 843 8000. We've
heard from several
people whop on ringing were told that "the public prefer to watch
Liverpool rather than Arsenal". An extraordinary statement, given that
not only are Arsenal receiving more outrageously positive acclaim
for their attacking football with every day that passes, but Liverpool
have been going through a period of being a bit dull.
Makes you wonder if the people at ITV Sport have actually watched any
football since Arsene Wenger took over at Highbury!
- Early hours consolation
- We should point out that ITV are repeating the hard-to-access
games in the early
hours of the morning. It ain't the same as seeing it as it happens,
but it is something, especially for those who liek to have the games
on tape.
- More info
- See the UK TV FAQ for more
archived info and links on all aspects of football coverage in the UK,
and
the UK TV newsreel topic for recent and archived news items.
Determining the placings in group stages
If any number of teams are level on points, their order is
decided first by examining the "mini-league" formed by
considering only the results between those teams.
There is a common misconception that this method could
result in "loops" if there are more than 2 teams involved
but this is not the case because the
results are put into a table rather than considered pair-wise.
If teams are still level in the mini-league, according to
points, goal difference and then away goals scored (note
that goals scored is, unusually, skipped),
then it goes
to overall goal difference and overall goals scored.
It's weird that they skip goals scored in the mini-league,
particularly as when it returns to overall stats goals
scored comes after goal diffrence, and away goals aren't
mentioned at all!
If it's still level the teams are ranked according to
their UEFA cofficients at the start of the season
(which is good for Arsenal, in the first stage at least,
as we were first seeds in the group).
See this
newsreel piece for more including transcription of the actual UEFA rules.
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